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Re: Muni Fiber and Politics


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 10:28:09 -0700

That's why I want legislation requiring the operator to be one or the other and not both. 

Most L1 gets built with tax dollars or subsidies anyway. 

Owen



On Aug 2, 2014, at 0:34, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu> wrote:

On Friday, August 01, 2014 04:44:29 PM Owen DeLong wrote:

Even when mandated to unbundle at a reasonable cost,
often other games are played (trouble ticket for service
billed by lines provider resolved in a day, trouble
ticket for service on unbundled element resolved in 14
days, etc.).

IMHO, experience has taught us that the lines provider
(or as I prefer to call them, the Layer 1 infrastructure
provider) must be prohibited from playing at the higher
layers.

Agree.

In reality, though, we've seen Layer 1-only providers 
becoming service providers (even when they previously 
promised the market it would never happen), due to wanting 
to stay "relevant".

I suppose if a Layer 1 provider were a government entity, 
there is a higher chance they would never enter the Layer 2 
or 3 space, but even then, there is strong lobbying in 
politics that this could become a reality.

I've seen it happen a great deal in south east Asia, 
Zimbabwe, Tanzania, Kenya, and now even South Africa, 
particularly with Layer 1 providers that were government 
entities built to enable fibre connectivity for management 
of utility services (power, for example) and were then 
tasked to offer Layer 1 services with the remaining fibre, 
but currently find themselves now playing in Layer 2 and 
above to make extra cash for the government.

It's hard...

Mark.


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