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Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today


From: Dorian Kim <dorian () blackrose org>
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 01:47:20 -0400

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:15:36AM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos. 

On Aug 13, 2014, at 22:59, Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists () gmail com> wrote:

Swisscom or some other European SP has / used to have a limit where they would not accept more specific routes than 
say a /22 from provider x, so if you wanted to take a /24 and announce it you were SOL sending packets to them from 
that /24 over provider y.

Still, for elderly and capacity limited routers, that might work.

And Sprint used to filter on /19s outside swamp space. (See NANOG 1999 archives for my [wrong then corrected] 
interpretation of ACL112.) Etc., etc. 

For stub networks, especially ones who are not as performance sensitive, this can help extend the life of their 
routers. But not everyone can make AGS+s work for years past their useful life or get "-doran" IOS builds. The 6500 
was first sold in 1999. I'm impressed it has lasted this long, even with new sups. Time to start thinking about 
upgrading. 

Just as a historical note, Sprint didn't have AGS+ or such equipment that were being propped up by the /19 filters (at 
least for the vast majority 
of the filter's existence). Neither did Verio. Those filters were primarily an attempt to enforce a certain behavior. 

Also, my recollection is that during that era "named" builds were typically named via receipient's well known email id, 
e.g."-smd" or first name 
"-sean" and I don't think I've ever seen it named after the last name unless it was their email id as well.

-dorian


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