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Re: BGPMON Alert Questions
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 11:13:40 -0400
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu> wrote:
On Thursday, April 03, 2014 03:55:11 PM Christopher Morrow wrote:I'm going to guess: 1) who's going to pay for the filtering setup work?Well, your customers are paying you to ensure they don't get cut off due to your negligence.
I think you mean they are paying me to carry their bits across the network... and they are paying me to do it with minimal hassle to THEM... telling me prefixes to add to their list is hassle.
You also don't want to become a "watch-out-for-that-one" peer within the community.
sure... not sure how much that matters to higher-ups? there's no such thing as bad PR, right?
But, perhaps those two ideals are not significant motivation for change :-\.
apparently they are not.
2) we have always done it this way... why change?This is probably a more endemic issue of our industry, where operators find it hard to keep up with the times (there is no shortage of "-bis" or BCP documents) through actual useful implementation (BCP-38) vs. talk (SDN hype). In the case of nailing routing filters for customers, one thought that comes to mind is if your organization is large enough, throw a warm body at the issue. There are lots of interns or folk you can hire on a temporary basis to focus on cleaning all this up, and getting the NOC trained and
there's a salient point about training time and internal systems complexity to keep in mind here as well :(
clued up on the new strategy. The new strategy is not just shiny, it could actually save you loss of customers and community respect.
agreed.
But that's just me...
it's not just you.
Current thread:
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions, (continued)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Randy Bush (Apr 02)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Barry Greene (Apr 02)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Barry Greene (Apr 02)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions ML (Apr 03)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Nick Hilliard (Apr 03)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Mark Tinka (Apr 03)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Randy Bush (Apr 03)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Mark Tinka (Apr 03)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Christopher Morrow (Apr 03)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Mark Tinka (Apr 03)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Christopher Morrow (Apr 03)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Mark Tinka (Apr 03)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Tony Tauber (Apr 03)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Christopher Morrow (Apr 03)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Randy Bush (Apr 03)
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- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Randy Bush (Apr 03)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Sharon Goldberg (Apr 03)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Mark Tinka (Apr 03)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Sharon Goldberg (Apr 04)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Nick Hilliard (Apr 04)
- Re: BGPMON Alert Questions Sharon Goldberg (Apr 04)