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Re: comcast ipv6 PTR


From: Lee Howard <Lee () asgard org>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 09:32:02 +0100



On 10/15/13 7:54 AM, "Mark Andrews" <marka () isc org> wrote:


In message <20131015024711.55297.qmail () joyce lan>, "John Levine" writes:
Is there any reason other than email where clients might demand RDNS?

There's a few other protocols that want rDNS on the servers.  IRC maybe.

Doing rDNS on random hosts in IPv6 would be very hard.  Servers are
configured with static addresses which you can put in the DNS and
rDNS, but normal user machines do SLAAC where the low 64 bits of the
address are quasi-random.  To get any sort of DNS you'd need for the
routers to watch when new hosts come on line and somehow tell the
relevant DNS servers what hosts need names.

This would be a lot of work, so nobody does it.

Actually you just need to *let* the hosts update their own ptr
records using UPDATE.

Cool. How do I tell a residential device what name server they should send
updates to?
Remember that the ISP uses DHCPv6 or PPPoE or TR-069 to send configuration
information to the CPE, which sends DHCPv6 or RA to hosts.  "Hosts" may be
computers, tablets, game consoles, phones, TVs, or other.


People keep saying the PTR records don't mean anything yet still
demand really strong authentication for updates of PTR records.
TCP is more than a strong enough authenticator to support update
from self.

Dynamic DNS uses TCP?  I didn't realize that.


You can even delegate the reverse zone when doing or just after a PD.

To a home router?  How do you tell the home router that it is now
authoritative for the reverse zone?


* Extend DHCPv6 to support delegations (NS or DNAME) relayed via
 the DHCP server as part of the PD.  NS records would result in a
 temporarially lame delegation until the zone is configured in the
 nameserver.

Let me know when you need me to express support for your draft being
adopted by dhc WG.
Until that feature is implemented, it is of limited operational utility.



Mark

Lee




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