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Re: Open Resolver Problems


From: Jack Bates <jbates () brightok net>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 09:46:10 -0500

On 3/27/2013 9:34 AM, William Herrin wrote:
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Jack Bates <jbates () brightok net> wrote:

Tracking the clients would be a huge dataset and be especially complicated
in clusters. They'd be better off at detecting actual attack vectors rather
than rate limiting.
I count this among the several reasons I intend to wait until a
solution has been accepted into the bind mainline.


You'll also find that it serves little purpose. The only 2 methods for stopping DNS amplification to my knowledge are:

1) tcp

2) require all requests to pad out to maximum response

3) BCP38 (in spirit)

The first has latency, load, and connection limitations. It is just too expensive.

The second would stop amplification, however, it will not stop botnets using them in attempts to hide the bot nodes in a very effective manner. It's also unlikely that we'd ever see it implemented.

The only effective fix is still BCP38 (in spirit).


Jack


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