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Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:00:14 -0500
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei <jfmezei_nanog () vaxination ca> wrote:
Should NAT become prevalent and prevent innovation because of its limitations, this means that innovation will happen only with IPv6 which means the next "must have" viral applications will require IPv6 and this may spur the move away from an IPv4 that has been crippled by NAT everywhere.
It won't happen and I'll tell you why not. Client to client communication block diagrams: Without NAT: Client->Router->Router->Router->Router->Router->Client With NAT: Client->Router->Router->Relay->Router->Router->Client At a high level, the two communication diagrams are virtually identical. Add killer app. By it's nature, a killer app is something folks will pay good money for. This means that 100% of killer apps have sufficient funding to install those specialty relays. Odds of a killer app where one router can't be replaced with a specialty relay while maintaining the intended function: not bloody likely. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
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- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6, (continued)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Owen DeLong (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 18)
- RE: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Jamie Bowden (Jan 22)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Andre Tomt (Jan 18)
- RE: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Voll, Toivo (Jan 23)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Joe Maimon (Jan 17)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Owen DeLong (Jan 17)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Joe Maimon (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Owen DeLong (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Jean-Francois Mezei (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 William Herrin (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Jean-Francois Mezei (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Doug Barton (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Mike Jones (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 19)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Constantine A. Murenin (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 William Herrin (Jan 19)
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- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Owen DeLong (Jan 17)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Lee Howard (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Joe Maimon (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Lee Howard (Jan 18)