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Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network
From: fredrik danerklint <fredan-nanog () fredan se>
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:15:11 +0100
You seem to be mistaken that any bandwidth issue will be remedied by TLMC. A significant number (well over the 50% mark I'd wager) will not be remedied. This thread was started over such a subject.
And to save 1 - 5 Mbit/s of this bandwidth is wrong, how?
The Apple TV cited as an example was an example.
If the TV Show/films/movies/etc.. is static content, then we should be able to cache it, at the hotel's cache server.
Travellers, be they corporate or leisure, have significant networking needs that the TLMC cannot address. Just think of "The Cloud" (yes, I'll go and flog myself for bringing it into a discussion on NANOG), where people are storing their (semi-) private documents or files - in the end it's similar to connecting back to the office to access the fileserver.
(We have 1 - 5 Mbit/s of more bandwidth for these services). What you are talking about here is dynamic content, which should not be cached at all and everyone knows this.
How about those who have limited bandwidth to the Internet? Like ferries, trains, buses or satellite links...And pray tell me, why should they all have TLMC's ?
I'm not saying that they should have a cache server. I'm saying that they could.
Now if you're a content provider, then yes I can imagine why you'd like everybody else to pay for better ways to deliver your content without having to pay for it yourself.
It does matter how you are going to try to solve this, it is always the customer who is going to pay in the end.
Within this discussion we're talking about the actual last mile.
I call it "The Last Mile Cache", TLMC
A proxy or cache won't be of any use if the users can't get to it with sufficient bandwidth to make it work anyway.
So, as long as a user does not have enough bandwidth, they should not have a cache server on their side, correct? -- //fredan http://tlmc.fredan.se
Current thread:
- RE: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network, (continued)
- RE: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Frank Bulk (iname.com) (Feb 25)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Mikael Abrahamsson (Feb 09)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Constantine A. Murenin (Feb 09)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Masataka Ohta (Feb 11)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network James Cloos (Feb 16)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Constantine A. Murenin (Feb 09)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network fredrik danerklint (Feb 10)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network JP Velders (Feb 10)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Måns Nilsson (Feb 10)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network fredrik danerklint (Feb 10)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network JP Velders (Feb 10)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network fredrik danerklint (Feb 10)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Jay Ashworth (Feb 10)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network fredrik danerklint (Feb 10)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Michal Krsek (Feb 10)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network JP Velders (Feb 10)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Constantine A. Murenin (Feb 10)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Jimmy Hess (Feb 16)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 26)