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Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband
From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org>
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 12:49:46 -0800
In a message written on Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 02:39:39PM -0500, Scott Helms wrote:
Basically when the customer (typically the service provider, but not always) orders a loop to a customer the muni provider would OTDR shoot it from the handoff point to the service provider to the prem. They would be responsible for insuring a reasonable performance of the fiber between those two end points.Been tried multiple times and I've never seen it work in the US, Canada, Europe, or Latin America. That's not to say it can't work, but there lots of reasons why it doesn't and I don't think anyone has suggested anything here that I haven't already seen fail.
Zayo (nee AboveNet/MFN), Sunesys, Allied Fiber, FiberTech Networks, and a dozen smaller dark fiber providers work this way today, with nice healthy profitable business. Granted, none of them are in the residential space today, but I don't see any reason why the prem being residential would make the model fail. Plenty of small cities sell dark as well, at least until the incumbant carriers scare/bribe the legislatures into outlawing it. I think that's evidence it works well, they know they can't compete with a muni network, so they are trying to block it with legal and lobbying efforts. They all cost a lot more than would make sense for residential, but most of that is that they lack the economies of scale that going to every residence would bring. Their current density of customers is simply too low. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/
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- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband, (continued)
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Jay Ashworth (Feb 03)
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Scott Helms (Feb 03)
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Jay Ashworth (Feb 03)
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Scott Helms (Feb 03)
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Jean-Francois Mezei (Feb 03)
- RE: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Frank Bulk (Feb 03)
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Scott Helms (Feb 04)
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Jean-Francois Mezei (Feb 04)
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Scott Helms (Feb 04)
- RE: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Frank Bulk (Feb 09)
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Leo Bicknell (Feb 03)
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Scott Helms (Feb 03)
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Jason Baugher (Feb 03)
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Jay Ashworth (Feb 03)
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Jason Baugher (Feb 03)
- Re: Fwd: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Jeff Kell (Feb 02)
- Re: Fwd: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Tim Jackson (Feb 02)
- RE: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Frank Bulk (Feb 02)
- RE: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Warren Bailey (Feb 02)
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Scott Helms (Feb 03)
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Tim Jackson (Feb 02)