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Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM
From: Brandon Ross <bross () pobox com>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:36:38 -0400 (EDT)
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013, Michael Thomas wrote:
On 04/25/2013 10:10 AM, Brandon Ross wrote:On Thu, 25 Apr 2013, Michael Thomas wrote:So here is the question I have: when we run out, is there *anything* that will reasonably allow an ISP to *not* deploy carrier grade NAT?Do you count NAT64 or MAP as carrier grade NAT?I suppose that the way to frame this as: does it require the ISP to carry flow statefulness in their network in places where they didn't have to before. That to my mind is the big hit.
NAT64 sure does. Take a look at MAP and be your own judge of weather it counts or not.
I was going to say that NAT64 could be helpful, but thought better of it because it may have its own set of issues. For example, are all of the resources *within* the ISP v6 available?
Um, yes, why wouldn't they be?
They may be a part of the problem as well as a part of the solution too. I would think that just the prospect of having a less expensive/complex infrastructure would be appealing as v6 adoption ramps up, and gives ISP's an incentive to give the laggards an incentive.
It's no longer clear to me what your problem statement is. If the problem is that you want something that does NATish things so that v4 still works, but v6 works better, I think NAT64 is worthy of your scrutiny.
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- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM John Curran (Apr 26)
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- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Michael Thomas (Apr 25)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Brandon Ross (Apr 25)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Owen DeLong (Apr 25)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Michael Thomas (Apr 25)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Owen DeLong (Apr 25)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Michael Thomas (Apr 25)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Matt Palmer (Apr 25)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM joel jaeggli (Apr 25)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Antonio Querubin (Apr 26)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM cb.list6 (Apr 26)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Owen DeLong (Apr 26)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Tore Anderson (Apr 26)