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Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM
From: Lee Howard <Lee () asgard org>
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:35:09 -0400
On 4/24/13 2:45 PM, "ML" <ml () kenweb org> wrote:
On 4/23/2013 5:41 PM, Valdis Kletnieks wrote:I didn't see any mention of this Tony Hain paper: http://tndh.net/~tony/ietf/ARIN-runout-projection.pdf tl;dr: ARIN predicted to run out of IP space to allocate in August this year. Are you ready?Where do the startup ISPs whom didn't qualify for PI IPv4 in the past fit into a post-run out world where they would qualify? I am speaking in generics but also about a real ISP that is in this situation today. In my example This ISP could show need for a /22 but wasn't multihoming at the time and likely will not until after run-out. How does such an ISP begin to address their backbone and customers facing interfaces without tying themselves to an ISP and their PA space? I don't imagine they will be open to paying extortion prices for IPs that other people never bothered to use.
Once ARIN is unable to meet an organization's justified need, they can't get addresses from ARIN. They can beg, borrow or buy addresses from someone else. They can try AfriNIC's or LACNIC's policies. They can do CGN. They can do IPv6. Lee
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- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM, (continued)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Lee Howard (Apr 26)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Owen DeLong (Apr 26)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Owen DeLong (Apr 25)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Harald Koch (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Eugen Leitl (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Jens Link (Apr 23)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Doug Barton (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Jared Mauch (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM ML (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Owen DeLong (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Lee Howard (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Michael Hallgren (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM John Levine (Apr 24)