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Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query)
From: Oliver <olipro () 8 c 9 b 0 7 4 0 1 0 0 2 ip6 arpa>
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 13:37:40 +0200
On Thursday 06 September 2012 14:01:50 Masataka Ohta wrote:
All that necessary is local changes on end systems of those who want the end to end transparency. There is no changes on the Internet.
You're basically redefining the term "end-to-end transparency" to suit your own agenda. Globally implementing what is basically an application layer protocol in order to facilitate the functioning of an upper layer protocol (i.e. IPv4) is patent nonsense. The purpose of each layer is to facilitate the one it encapsulates, not the other way around. What you advocate is not end-to-end transparency but point-to-point opacity hinging on a morass of hacks that constitute little more than an abuse of existing technologies in an attempt to fulfil an unscalable goal. Fortunately, it is exactly that fact which makes all of your drafts and belligerent evangelising utterly pointless; you can continue to make noise and attempt to argue by redefinition all you like, the world will continue to forge ahead with the deployment of IPv6 and the *actual* meaning of the end-to-end principle will remain as it is. Regards, Oliver
Current thread:
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query), (continued)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) David Miller (Sep 04)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Michael Thomas (Sep 04)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Jimmy Hess (Sep 05)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Masataka Ohta (Sep 05)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) valdis . kletnieks (Sep 05)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Masataka Ohta (Sep 05)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Owen DeLong (Sep 05)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Cameron Byrne (Sep 05)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Masataka Ohta (Sep 05)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Oliver (Sep 06)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Masataka Ohta (Sep 06)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Owen DeLong (Sep 06)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Oliver (Sep 07)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Masataka Ohta (Sep 09)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Nick Hilliard (Sep 10)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Masataka Ohta (Sep 10)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) valdis . kletnieks (Sep 11)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Masataka Ohta (Sep 11)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Jimmy Hess (Sep 11)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) William Herrin (Sep 10)