Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications"....

["Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins () arbor net>]

On Nov 29, 2012, at 3:04 AM, Tony Hain wrote:

> Getting the cpe vendors to ship in quantity requires the ISP engineering organizations to say in unison "we are 
> deploying IPv6 and will only recommend products that pass testing".

Do you see any evidence of that occurring?  I don't.

Also, a lot of broadband consumers and enterprise organizations buy and deploy their own CPE.  Do you see a lot of IPv6 
activity there?  I don't, excepting an IPv6 RFP checkbox for enterprises, which doesn't have any formal requirements 
and is essentially meaningless because of that fact.

> You claim to be looking for the economic incentive, but are looking with such a short time horizon that all you see 
> are the 'waste' products vendors
> are pushing to make a quick sale, knowing that you will eventually come back for yet-another-hack to delay 
> transition, and prop up your expertise in a
> legacy technology.

No.

What I am looking for is an economic incentive which will justify the [IMHO] wildly overoptimisitic claims which some 
are making in re ubiquitous end-to-end native IPv6 deployment.

Otherwise, I believe it will be a much more gradual adoption curve, as you indicate.

> The same thing happened with the SNA faithful 15 years ago, and history shows what happened there.

You attribute circumstances and motivations to me which do not apply. 

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