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Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:14:35 -0800
Compulsion won't come from IPv6-only content. It will come from IPv6-only users. Any content/apps/service providers who fail to provide for this fact before we reach that point are making a bet-the-business gamble on the theory that NAT44(4...) will somehow scale well beyond what is likely IMHO. When we reach compulsion, it will not happen slowly or gracefully. We will have hit a wall with IPv4 and IPv4 will simply and suddenly stop growing. Likely in a rather graphic and unpleasant way because it will likely be when we hit some form of scaling limit on the NAT infrastructure where it suddenly keels over and IPv4 only users are down for a series of outages while everyone scrambles to remove load from the IPv4 network in order to get it running again. The alternative is to recognize the coming problem, deploy IPv6 proactively to content/apps/services and then wait for ISPs and end-users to catch up and begin using those IPv6 capabilities. Owen On Nov 26, 2012, at 06:25 , Damian Menscher <damian () google com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Dobbins, Roland <rdobbins () arbor net> wrote:Again, where're the compelling IPv6-only content/apps/services?To answer your rhetorical question, http://www.kame.net/ has a dancing kame. To my knowledge, that's the most compelling IPv6-only content. Unsurprisingly, this does not drive user adoption, and major sites won't add IPv6-only content while a significant fraction of users are v4-only. Stalemate. Damian
Current thread:
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration, (continued)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Dobbins, Roland (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Arturo Servin (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Dobbins, Roland (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Mikael Abrahamsson (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Dobbins, Roland (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Damian Menscher (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Eugen Leitl (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration sthaug (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Sander Steffann (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Marco Davids (Prive) (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Owen DeLong (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Mikael Abrahamsson (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Cameron Byrne (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Dobbins, Roland (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Cameron Byrne (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Richard Barnes (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Randy Bush (Nov 27)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Dobbins, Roland (Nov 26)
- RE: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Tony Hain (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Dobbins, Roland (Nov 26)
- Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Michael Thomas (Nov 26)