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Re: FYI Netflix is down
From: Rodrick Brown <rodrick.brown () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 22:19:18 -0400
On Jul 2, 2012, at 7:03 PM, James Downs <egon () egon cc> wrote:
On Jul 2, 2012, at 1:20 PM, david raistrick wrote:Amazon resources are controlled (from a consumer viewpoint) by API - that API is also used by amazon's internal toolkits that support ELB (and RDS..). Those (http accessed) API interfaces were unavailable for a good portion of the outages.Right, and other toolkits like boto. Each AZ has a different endpoint (url), and as I have no resources running in East, I saw no problems with the API endpoints I use. So, as you note, US-EAST Region was "not controllable".I know nothing of the netflix side of it - but that's what -we- saw. (and that caused all us-east RDS instances in every AZ to appearAnd, if you lose US-EAST, you need to run *somewhere*. Netflix did not cutover www.netflix.com to another Region. Why not is another question.
At which point are you guys going to realize that no matter how much resiliency, redundancy and fault tolerance you plan into an infrastructure there are always the unforeseen that just doesn't make any sense to plan for. Four major decision factors are cost, complexity, time and failure rate. At some point a business need to focus on its core business. IT like any other business resource has to be managed efficiently and its sole purpose is for the enablement of said business nothing more. Some of the post here are highly laughable and so unrealistic. People are acting as if Netflix is part of some critical service they stream movies for Christ sake. Some acceptable level of loss is fine for 99.99% of Netflix's user base just like cable, electricity and running water I suffer a few hours of losses each year from those services it suck yes, is it the end of the world no.. This horse is dead!
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- Re: FYI Netflix is down david raistrick (Jul 02)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down Leo Bicknell (Jul 02)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down david raistrick (Jul 02)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down Leo Bicknell (Jul 02)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down Cameron Byrne (Jul 02)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down Tony McCrory (Jul 02)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down Paul Graydon (Jul 02)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down James Downs (Jul 02)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down david raistrick (Jul 02)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down James Downs (Jul 02)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down Rodrick Brown (Jul 02)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down James Downs (Jul 02)
- RE: FYI Netflix is down Dan Golding (Jul 03)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down James Downs (Jul 03)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down Rodrick Brown (Jul 03)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down david raistrick (Jul 03)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down Randy Bush (Jul 03)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down Kyle Creyts (Jul 04)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down Randy Bush (Jul 04)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down George Herbert (Jul 02)
- Re: FYI Netflix is down Jon Lewis (Jul 03)