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Re: Cisco Update
From: Ray Soucy <rps () maine edu>
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 15:49:01 -0400
Looks like they've modified their privacy policy in the last few days, but from what I understand it was originally pretty bad, including the collecting users' history and: [...] right to shut down the users' account if it finds that they have used the service for “obscene, pornographic, or offensive purposes, to infringe another’s rights, including but not limited to any intellectual property rights, or… to violate, or encourage any conduct that would violate any applicable law or regulation or give rise to civil or criminal liability," as well as comply with the orders it receives by "a third party or court of competent jurisdiction" if the user has been found violating those terms. [...] I haven't really kept up on consumer-grade networking; who out there presents a reasonable challenge to Cisco these days? On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Jeff Johnstone <jj () diamondtech ca> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net> wrote:Technical users could always just flash DD-WRT onto the device and = replace the Linksys/Cisco firmware; then you have a much more robust = system without any big brother stuff.Or Cisco could just omit the big brother stuff. This is not a technological failure. In fact, automatic updates of router firmware are overdue. Good job on that front. It is the implications of your router dictating to you what sort of uses might be acceptable and what is not that's troubling, and that seems to have happened on several levels in this product. ... JGThis is what has me thinking about shorting Cisco stock. When the legal implications of this hit the FCC <http://www.fcc.gov/>, EFF<http://www.eff.org>, or here in Canada the CRTC <http://www.crtc.gc.ca>, the shouts will begin. This breaks all sorts of regulations about privacy and I'm sure a few other product sales laws in the different countries where the products are sold. Interesting times we live in.... cheers Jeff
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Current thread:
- Re: Cisco Update, (continued)
- Re: Cisco Update Joe Greco (Jul 05)
- Re: Cisco Update Sean Harlow (Jul 05)
- Re: Cisco Update Jon Lewis (Jul 05)
- Re: Cisco Update Sean Harlow (Jul 05)
- Re: Cisco Update Scott Howard (Jul 05)
- Re: Cisco Update Joe Greco (Jul 05)
- Re: Cisco Update Sean Harlow (Jul 05)
- RE: Cisco Update David Hubbard (Jul 05)
- Re: Cisco Update Grant Ridder (Jul 05)
- Re: Cisco Update Joe Greco (Jul 05)
- Re: Cisco Update Jeff Johnstone (Jul 05)
- Re: Cisco Update Ray Soucy (Jul 05)
- Re: Cisco Update Andriy Bilous (Jul 05)
- RE: Cisco Update Keith Medcalf (Jul 05)
- RE: Cisco Update Keith Medcalf (Jul 05)
- Re: Cisco Update Joe Greco (Jul 05)
- Re: Cisco Update Jeff Johnstone (Jul 05)
- Re: Cisco Update Jimmy Hess (Jul 05)
- Re: Cisco Update Randy Bush (Jul 05)
- Re: Cisco Update Joe Greco (Jul 07)
- Re: Cisco Update Jeroen van Aart (Jul 11)
- Re: Cisco Update Tyler Haske (Jul 11)