nanog mailing list archives
Re: Megaupload.com seized
From: Jeroen van Aart <jeroen () mompl net>
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:17:25 -0800
Steven Bellovin wrote:
Note this from the NY Times article:The Megaupload case is unusual, said Orin S. Kerr, a law professor at George Washington University, in that federal prosecutors obtained the private e-mails of Megaupload�s operators in an effort to show they were operating in bad faith."The government hopes to use their private words against them," Mr. Kerr said. "This should scare the owners and operators of similar sites."
(I base my rant on the assumption megaupload had outsourced their email to one of those "enterprise level" offerings, such as gmail or yahoo).
If this isn't a convincing argument for using your own physical email servers (with encrypted filesystems and limited log keeping and what have you) and against outsourcing your email, then I don't know.
I understand they can seize your servers and get your email that way if you were not smart enough to delete it and/or use encrypted filesystems.
However it's much much harder to use email against you in preparation of a case when you run your own servers. Because they can't just quietly ask your email provider to hand over the data and forbid them to talk about it...
Besides, running an email server is almost a trivial exercise for any marginally competent IT person. If you can set up a system such as megaupload you for sure can run your own, secure, email servers.
If not ask someone competent enough to do it for you. Greetings, Jeroen -- Earthquake Magnitude: 4.8 Date: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 07:26:11 UTC Location: Fiji region Latitude: -21.9943; Longitude: -179.4848 Depth: 596.00 km
Current thread:
- Re: Megaupload.com seized, (continued)
- Re: Megaupload.com seized Tei (Jan 24)
- Re: Megaupload.com seized Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 20)
- "Illegal content" (Re: Megaupload.com seized) Carsten Bormann (Jan 20)
- Re: "Illegal content" (Re: Megaupload.com seized) Marshall Eubanks (Jan 20)
- Re: "Illegal content" (Re: Megaupload.com seized) Robert Bonomi (Jan 20)
- Re: "Illegal content" (Re: Megaupload.com seized) Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 20)
- Re: Megaupload.com seized Owen DeLong (Jan 20)
- Re: Megaupload.com seized bmanning (Jan 20)
- Re: Megaupload.com seized Vadim Antonov (Jan 20)
- Re: Megaupload.com seized Jay Ashworth (Jan 20)
- Re: Megaupload.com seized Jeroen van Aart (Jan 31)
- Re: Megaupload.com seized Michael Painter (Jan 19)
- Re: Megaupload.com seized Ricky Beam (Jan 20)
- Re: Megaupload.com seized Paul Graydon (Jan 20)
- Re: Megaupload.com seized Tony McCrory (Jan 20)
- Re: Megaupload.com seized Leo Bicknell (Jan 20)
- Re: Megaupload.com seized Roland Perry (Jan 20)
- Re: Megaupload.com seized Marshall Eubanks (Jan 20)
- Re: Megaupload.com seized Administrator (Jan 20)
- Re: Megaupload.com seized Ricky Beam (Jan 20)
- Re: Megaupload.com seized Jay Ashworth (Jan 20)