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Re: pontification bloat (was 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton))
From: Randy Bush <randy () psg com>
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 10:31:20 +0900
for those who say bufferbloat is a problem, do you have wred enabled on backbone or customer links?For *most backbone networks* it is a no-op on the backbone. To be more precise, if the backbone is at least 10x, and preferably more like 50x faster than the largest single TCP flow from any customer it will be nearly impossible to measure the performance difference between a short FIFO queue and a WRED queue.
when a line card is designed to buffer the b*d of a trans-pac 40g, the oddities on an intra-pop link have been observed to spike to multiple seconds.
To the customer, absolutely, whenever possible, which generally means when the hardware supports. Ideally with the queue length tuned to match the link speed of the customer port. The slower speed the customer port the more critical the tuning.
so, do you have wred enabled anywhere? who actually has it enabled? (embarrassed to say, but to set an honest example, i do not believe iij does) randy
Current thread:
- Re: 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton), (continued)
- Re: 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton) bas (Jan 27)
- RE: 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton) George Bonser (Jan 27)
- Re: 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton) bas (Jan 27)
- Re: 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton) Joel jaeggli (Jan 27)
- RE: 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton) George Bonser (Jan 27)
- Re: 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton) Joel jaeggli (Jan 27)
- Re: 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton) bas (Jan 27)
- Re: 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton) Joel jaeggli (Jan 27)
- pontification bloat (was 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)) Randy Bush (Jan 27)
- Re: pontification bloat (was 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)) Leo Bicknell (Jan 27)
- Re: pontification bloat (was 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)) Randy Bush (Jan 27)
- Re: pontification bloat (was 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)) Leo Bicknell (Jan 27)
- Re: pontification bloat (was 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)) Randy Bush (Jan 27)
- Re: pontification bloat (was 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)) Leo Bicknell (Jan 27)
- Re: pontification bloat (was 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)) Leo Bicknell (Jan 27)
- RE: pontification bloat (was 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)) George Bonser (Jan 27)
- Re: pontification bloat (was 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)) Jared Mauch (Jan 29)
- RE: pontification bloat (was 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)) George Bonser (Jan 29)
- RE: pontification bloat (was 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)) George Bonser (Jan 29)
- BDP discussion pointers: was: Re pontification bloat (was 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)) Jim Gettys (Jan 28)
- Re: BDP discussion pointers: was: Re pontification bloat (was 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)) Jim Gettys (Jan 28)