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Re: Programmers with network engineering skills
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:22:19 -0800
I think you're more likely to find a network engineer with (possibly limited) programming skills. That's certainly where I would categorize myself. Owen On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Brandt, Ralph wrote:
Generalists are hard to come by these days. They are people who learn less and less about more and more till they know nothing about everything. People today are specializing in the left and right halves of the bytes.... They learn more and more about less and less till they know everything about nothing. And BTW, they are worthless unless you have five of them working on a problem because none of them know enough to fix it. Worse, you can replace the word five with fifty and it may be still true. I know of three of these, all gainfully employed at this time and could each find at least a couple jobs if they wanted. I am one, my son is two and a guy we worked with is the third. At one time (40 years ago) the mantra in IS was train for expertise, now it is hire for it. Somewhere there has to be a happy medium. I suggest this, find a good coder, not a mediocre who writes shit code but a good one who can think and learn and when you talk about branching out with his skill set he or she lights up. His first thing on site is take the A+ networking course. No, I do not sell the courses. But I have seen this kind of approach work when nothing else was. Ralph Brandt Communications Engineer HP Enterprise Services Telephone +1 717.506.0802 FAX +1 717.506.4358 Email Ralph.Brandt () pateam com 5095 Ritter Rd Mechanicsburg PA 17055 -----Original Message----- From: A. Pishdadi [mailto:apishdadi () gmail com] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:27 PM To: NANOG Subject: Programmers with network engineering skills Hello All, i have been looking for quite some time now a descent coder (c,php) who has a descent amount of system admin / netadmin experience. Doesn't necessarily need to be an expert at network engineering but being acclimated in understanding the basic fundamentals of networking. Understanding basic routing concepts, how to diagnose using tcpdump / pcap, understanding subnetting and how bgp works (not necessarily setting up bgp). I've posted job listings on the likes of dice and monster and have not found any good canidates, most of them ASP / Java guys. If anyone can point me to a site they might recommend for job postings or know of any consulting firms that might provide these services that would be greatly appreciated.
Current thread:
- Programmers with network engineering skills A. Pishdadi (Feb 26)
- Re: Programmers with network engineering skills Mike Hale (Feb 26)
- Re: Programmers with network engineering skills Christopher Morrow (Feb 26)
- Re: Programmers with network engineering skills Benjamin (Feb 26)
- Re: Programmers with network engineering skills Jeroen van Aart (Feb 28)
- RE: Programmers with network engineering skills Brandt, Ralph (Feb 27)
- Re: Programmers with network engineering skills Owen DeLong (Feb 27)
- Re: Programmers with network engineering skills david raistrick (Feb 27)
- Re: Programmers with network engineering skills Owen DeLong (Feb 27)
- Re: Programmers with network engineering skills Michael Hallgren (Feb 27)
- RE: Programmers with network engineering skills Holmes,David A (Feb 27)
- Re: Programmers with network engineering skills Randy Bush (Feb 27)
- Re: Programmers with network engineering skills Michael Thomas (Feb 27)
- RE: Programmers with network engineering skills Holmes,David A (Feb 27)
- Re: Programmers with network engineering skills Daniel Schauenberg (Feb 27)
- RE: Programmers with network engineering skills Holmes,David A (Feb 27)
- Re: Programmers with network engineering skills Owen DeLong (Feb 27)
- Re: Programmers with network engineering skills Mike Hale (Feb 26)
- RE: Programmers with network engineering skills Brandt, Ralph (Feb 28)