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Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
From: George Herbert <george.herbert () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:21:45 -0800
On Dec 20, 2012, at 10:01 PM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com> wrote:
On 12/20/12, Charles N Wyble <charles-lists () knownelement com> wrote:Zenoss works very well as a cmdb.Zenoss is very visually appealing, but a monitoring system for network hosts, not a CMDB. In particular, except through extensive custom programming, I see no mechanism to manage CIs with it or query for facts... Zenoss doesn't seem to have any way you can represent or, query, or model a fact that a certain IP address terminates in Vlan X, on device Y, with default gateway IP G that has NSAP ID H, and device Y lives in building A room 1 aisle 2 rack 4 rack slot number 5, fed by breakers 186 and 237, with upstream Ethernet cable ID #G296R plugged into port 39 on patch panel 2, which lands on Switch K port Gig8/44.
Networks have many "items of importance" that are not hosts, also, and are not readily modelled using SNMP.
Much less the application layer, physical SW installs or logical groupings layer, or a virtual hosts or internal cloud stack layer. Or tie ins to the release management or DevOps control layer. I know this is NANOG, but configuration control runs a ways up the stack... A proper CMDB will have to be able to take a much bigger picture. Not to slight Zenoss; it's good at what it does do. But that's not a CMDB. That is not to suggest that products that handle a limited slice of the stack in a more organized manner are not valuable. Every little bit helps, in the current absence of a delivered off-the-shelf comprehensive product. But if you've ever watched a comprehensive product run, partnered with a systems deploy tool with all the business logic on physical anti-affinity for power, rack, network layers, ... Provisioning a 1000+ node, 60+ server types app environment into a data center with one command line, selected, booted, network side VLANs allocated and configured, apps installed, apps configured, and ready for traffic... The data to be able to pull that off can be gathered and can be managed and used effectively. That's the power of a real, comprehensive CMDB. George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone
Current thread:
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP, (continued)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Nick Hilliard (Dec 20)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Saku Ytti (Dec 20)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Phil Regnauld (Dec 20)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Saku Ytti (Dec 20)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Josh Galvez (Dec 20)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Nick Hilliard (Dec 20)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Jimmy Hess (Dec 20)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP George Herbert (Dec 20)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Charles N Wyble (Dec 20)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Jimmy Hess (Dec 20)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP George Herbert (Dec 21)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Jo Rhett (Dec 24)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Mike Hale (Dec 24)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Jo Rhett (Dec 24)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Mike Hale (Dec 24)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Eric (Dec 27)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Pierre DAVID (Dec 21)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Eric A Louie (Dec 13)
- Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Jeremy Malli (Dec 13)