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Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois?
From: "Constantine A. Murenin" <mureninc () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 23:32:21 -0800
On 8 December 2012 16:12, Dan Luedtke <mail () danrl de> wrote:
Hi, hmm, they get away with it once again. On the other hand their prices stay low. Off-topic but somehow important to me:HE has an open-peering policy (AFAIK); which basically means that tunnelbroker.net traffic is free for hetzner.deIs that true? That would be great!
That's not actually off-topic, but the whole point of my thread: It's being implied everywhere that native IPv6 is somehow important to seek, since we're running out of IPv4 addresses. I myself have recently trolled on LowEndBox.com, annoying every new provider with a "it's 2012, do you support IPv6?"-style questions. Until I then signed up with a couple of such established providers that did clearly advertise "IPv6 support", and realised that, as long as there's tunnelbroker.net, "native IPv6" is nothing more than purely a marketing concept in situations where you are already getting a dedicated server (either virtual or physical) as setting up a reliable tunnel on such a server is just so damn easy, reliable, fast and hassle-free. I still think that native IPv6 is important for end-users at home and on the go from the operator's perspective (T-Mobile USA is practically ready to shutdown IPv4 w/ NAT44 and go with IPv6 + NAT64 + DNS64 + 464XLAT), but for individual servers close to an IX with HE.net, where all native IPv4/IPv6 traffic has to go through that very same Internet eXchange point anyways, native IPv6 can only be slower, more expensive, more insecure and less feature rich. And the providers have no incentives (quite the opposite, as I've contemplated above), since it's not like in the server room they could drop IPv4 support any time soon anyways -- no client would approve. In summary, I'd be very happy to try out hetzner.de's native IPv6 if they sort it out one day and will offer short, abbreviatable addresses, and without violating my privacy; until then, I'm very happy with their prices and being a proven shop, and still happy to be their customer with a bring-your-own IPv6 aka tunnelbroker.net. :-) C.
Current thread:
- Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Constantine A. Murenin (Dec 07)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Jimmy Hess (Dec 07)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Mark Andrews (Dec 08)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Constantine A. Murenin (Dec 08)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Dan Luedtke (Dec 08)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Darius Jahandarie (Dec 08)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Patrick W. Gilmore (Dec 08)
- RE: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Siegel, David (Dec 09)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Darius Jahandarie (Dec 09)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Mark Andrews (Dec 08)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Constantine A. Murenin (Dec 08)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Mikael Abrahamsson (Dec 09)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Sander Steffann (Dec 09)
- RE: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Steve Bertrand (Dec 09)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Jimmy Hess (Dec 07)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Randy Bush (Dec 09)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Ryan Malayter (Dec 09)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Randy Bush (Dec 09)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Mikael Abrahamsson (Dec 09)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Owen DeLong (Dec 08)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Constantine A. Murenin (Dec 10)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Owen DeLong (Dec 11)