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Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?
From: joel jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 07:36:26 -0700
On 8/6/12 7:08 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:07 AM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:As much as I'd love for Verizon to offer BGP directly over FIOS there are fewer than 40,000I'm curious as to your number... where is that from?
sent to your mailbox every week AS Summary 41838 Number of ASes in routing system http://www.cidr-report.org/as2.0/#General_Statusthe majority of those are stub ASes and more than 1/3 of them are announcing only one prefix.
The addressable market of potential multihomers is probably larger than that. but frankly there's a lot of friction that makes the proposition less than worthwhile for most businesses.
e.g. p.i. versus pa prefix assignment. longish commitments to two or more providers facilties expertise ...In ipv4 land, a nat box with two uplinks is probably a 90% solution for most non-services-offering high(er) availability needing small businesses.
Marhsall had noted a number of 'small businesses' in the US at ~1.4m as of ~2006ish? I'd think that there are many use-cases where BGP is useful for end users of FIOS, turning out a 'business' class of service without BGP seems like a less useful 'business' solution (especially where the sla isn't really much better than the consumer solution). -chris
Current thread:
- Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?, (continued)
- Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we? Owen DeLong (Aug 06)
- Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we? William Herrin (Aug 06)
- Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we? Seth Mattinen (Aug 06)
- Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we? Owen DeLong (Aug 06)
- Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we? Scott Helms (Aug 07)
- Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we? james machado (Aug 06)
- Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we? Owen DeLong (Aug 06)
- IRON vs. BGP (was Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?) Wes Felter (Aug 07)
- Re: IRON vs. BGP (was Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?) Owen DeLong (Aug 07)
- Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we? valdis . kletnieks (Aug 07)
- Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we? joel jaeggli (Aug 06)
- Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we? Chris Boyd (Aug 06)
- Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we? Leo Bicknell (Aug 06)
- Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we? Mikael Abrahamsson (Aug 06)
- Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we? Mike Jones (Aug 06)
- Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we? Leo Bicknell (Aug 06)
- Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we? William Herrin (Aug 06)
- Re: BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we? Owen DeLong (Aug 06)