Re: Do Not Complicate Routing Security with Voodoo Economics

[Jennifer Rexford <jrex () CS Princeton EDU>]

Neil,

> maybe volunteers from the nanog community should contact you?

Thanks for the suggestion!  Yes, I would encourage interested people to contact me.  We won't be able to put everyone 
on the working group (in the interest of having a small enough group to make progress), but we are very interested in 
having people who can offer their expertise, feedback, and advice throughout the process...

-- Jen


> On 4 Sep 2011, at 16:45, "Jennifer Rexford" <jrex () CS Princeton EDU> wrote:
>
> > Neil,
> >
> > The group is being assembled right now, so we don't have a list as of yet. 
> >
> > -- Jen
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Sep 4, 2011, at 11:32 AM, "Neil J. McRae" <neil () domino org> wrote:
> >
> > > Jen,
> > > What operators are involved? And who represents them specifically?
> > >
> > > Neil.
> > >
> > > On 04/09/2011 16:07, "Jennifer Rexford" <jrex () CS Princeton EDU> wrote:
> > > > As one of the co-chairs of this working group, I'd like to chime in to
> > > > clarify the purpose of this group.  Our goal is to assemble a group of
> > > > vendors and operators (not "publish or perish" academics) to discuss and
> > > > recommend effective strategies for incremental deployment of security
> > > > solutions for BGP (e.g., such as the ongoing RPKI and BGP-SEC work).  It
> > > > is not to design new security protocols or to "write policy and
> > > > procedures for operators" -- that would of course be over-reaching and
> > > > presumptuous.  The goal is specifically to identify strategies for
> > > > incremental deployment of the solutions designed and evaluated by the
> > > > appropriate technical groups (e.g., IETF working groups).  And, while the
> > > > SIGCOMM paper you mention is an example of such a strategy, it is just
> > > > one single example -- and is by no means the recommendation of a group
> > > > that is not yet even fully assembled yet.  The working group will debate
> > > > and discuss a great many issues before suggesting any strategies, and
> > > > those strategies would be the output of the entire working group.
> > > >
> > > > <tongue in cheek> As for "publish or perish" academics, I doubt you'll
> > > > find that the small set of academics who choose to go knee deep into
> > > > operational issues do so because they are trying to optimize their
> > > > academic careers... ;) </tongue in cheek>
> > > >
> > > > -- Jen