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Re: XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:46:33 -0400
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:52 AM, William Pitcock <nenolod () systeminplace net> wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:22:53 -0400 Chris <caldcv () gmail com> wrote:This is a huge business. Shady "SEO" companies are charging individuals at least $250 per month to use their spam tools of choice to spam forums and Wordpress blogs. I got one of the major players on the run right now because he cannot seem to keep his "business page" hosted with a company longer than a few weeks and I keep playing whack-a-mole with him.McColo and Atrivo were not terminated because of spam. If you believe they are, then you are simply misinformed. Atrivo and McColo were terminated over their network being used extensively for botnet control centers.
William, Atrivo and McColo were terminated _late_. As an industry, might we not consider finding a reasonable way to do a more effective job identifying and dealing with shops who can't seem to keep out the customers who use those facilities to hurt and abuse the rest of us? If we fail to adequately self-regulate, the courts and entities like the U.S. Congress will surely find a way to do it for us. And they won't care nearly as much about the technical constraints as we do. I make no judgment about XSServer and offer no solution. I merely suggest that Chris has posed a legitimate operational problem that our community may wish to redress while the while the details of such a choice are still in our hands. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
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- XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider Chris (Oct 26)
- Re: XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider Nicolai (Oct 26)
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- Re: XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider William Pitcock (Oct 26)
- Re: XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider Chris (Oct 26)
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- Re: XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider William Herrin (Oct 27)
- Re: XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider Kyle Creyts (Oct 30)
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