Re: Arguing against using public IP space

[Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com>]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Greco" <jgreco () ns sol net>

> And some products, say like FreeBSD (which forms the heart of things
> like pfSense, so let's not even begin to argue that it "isn't a
> firewall") can actually be configured to default either way.

By Owen's definition, it's not.

> So basically, while we would all prefer that firewalls default to deny,
> it probably isn't as important a distinction as this thread is making
> it out to be, because even a "default to deny" firewall fails when a
> naive admin makes a typo and allows all traffic from 0/0
> inadvertently. It's just a matter of statistical likelihood.
>
> Or perhaps a better argument would be that routers really ought to
> default to deny. :-) I'd be fine with that, but I can hear the
> screaming already.

But you're missing an important point here, Joe: we're not talking about
default configuration... we're talking about *failure modes*, which are by
definition unpredictable.

All you can really do there is figure the probabilities... and the probability
is that a *router-based* firewall (which as you and I agree, is a helluva lot
of firewalls) will *be more likely* to fail into pass traffic mode than into
don't pass traffic mode.

Cheers,
-- jra
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