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Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in one week)
From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org>
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 07:56:33 -0800
In a message written on Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 03:33:04PM +0000, John Curran wrote:
There is an Draft Policy for Inter-RIR Transfers presently in extended "Last Call" in the ARIN Policy Development Process. The Last Call will run for one more week, and allows an opportunity for anyone in the Internet community to provide feedback regarding this proposed number resource policy. Feedback, including statements in support
I went and read a fair number of PPML messages via the web interface as I no longer subscribe. I also read the policy proposal. I think the AC, and ARIN's policy process in general has come off the rails. There's a reason why I unsubscribed from PPML, and have not participated for 2+ years. I don't know exactly where things went wrong, but somewhere they went very, very wrong. But I don't have to summarize, Bill Sandiford (an AC Member) already did that for me: http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2011-November/023661.html Which leads me to my thoughts on the process, from two areas: 1) The concept of Inter-RIR transfers is a bad idea. Insuring "compatible" rules between RIR's will always be difficult at best. There are technical difficulties for the RIR's, such as how reverse DNS is handled. Most importantly, after going through all the pain of figuring out these details it's unlikely to help very many people at all. 2) The process followed to get here is totally broken. Bill hit the nail on the head, and it's archived on ARIN's web site: Text in Sep: http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2011-September/023170.html Text in Oct: http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2011-October/023362.html Near as I can tell the feedback in the October meeting made the AC want to do a _total rewrite of the entire policy_, which they turned around in under a week and shoved directly into the last call process. It's disgusting, and I'm glad I'm no longer involved. It's a mockery of the policy process ARIN has set up, and I'm baffled to this day why more folks aren't upset about it. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/
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- ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in one week) John Curran (Nov 09)
- Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in one week) Leo Bicknell (Nov 09)
- Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in one week) John Curran (Nov 09)
- Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in one week) Randy Bush (Nov 09)
- Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in one week) William Herrin (Nov 10)
- Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in one week) Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 10)
- Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in one week) Randy Bush (Nov 10)
- Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in one week) CJ Aronson (Nov 10)
- Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in one week) Randy Bush (Nov 10)
- Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in one week) William Herrin (Nov 10)
- Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in one week) Randy Bush (Nov 10)
- Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in one week) David Conrad (Nov 10)
- Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in one week) Leo Bicknell (Nov 09)