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Re: IPv6? Why, you are the first one to ask for it!
From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 12:14:00 +1100
In message <D338D1613B32624285BB321A5CF3DB25130D83A330 () ginga ai net>, Deepak Ja in writes:
The board to the managers/sales people: "Please explain us again why we can't have more customers?"Let's be real for a second, there are plenty of backbone-ish companies that have been around long enough to accumulate tons, and tons of IPv4 space. I remember an old SP that used to give every PC in their NOC, possibly their whole company, a /24 and /16s weren't hard to get either. Lots of shops that had IP-based hosting that have gone name-based probably have tons of available space too. The "no more IP addresses available" will affect folks unevenly... if I were to guess, mostly the folks that aren't large/old enough to have gobs of space lying around but are too large to get provider space. I'm also guessing that these guys are the ones creating the most pressure for IPv6 in their upstreams, as it serves their interests to make IPv4 unneeded as soon as possible. The next big surge of IT spend that isn't about reduction or consolidation will create pressure on Enterprises to use more address space, and if they are nearly out of IPv4 space (with firewalls, NAT, VPNs, etc, not a lot of pressure there) they will push their SPs for it. Government contracts for telecomm all require IPv6 support, and all the vendors on them say they support it, but gov't customers trying to order say that is a no-go. (As of two weeks ago)... so even gov't isn't a big enough buyer to make this happen sooner. DJ
While some companies will have plenty of IPv4 space for a long time, not all the people they communicate with will. Some of them will be forced into using IPv6 sooner rather than later. All companies need to be ready for that regardless of how much IPv4 they have. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka () isc org
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- Re: IPv6? Why, you are the first one to ask for it! Alexander Harrowell (Mar 02)
- Re: IPv6? Why, you are the first one to ask for it! JC Dill (Mar 02)
- Re: IPv6? Why, you are the first one to ask for it! Jeroen Massar (Mar 01)
- Re: IPv6? Why, you are the first one to ask for it! Franck Martin (Mar 01)
- RE: IPv6? Why, you are the first one to ask for it! Deepak Jain (Mar 01)
- Re: IPv6? Why, you are the first one to ask for it! Mark Andrews (Mar 01)
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