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Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?)
From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:16:56 +1000
In message <430FFF20-43ED-45BB-846D-FEE8769FC399 () bogus com>, Joel Jaeggli write s:
On Jul 12, 2011, at 10:59 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:=20 I didn't claim it would work with existing CPE equipment. Declaring 6to4 historic won't work with existing CPE equipment either.If the hosts behind it stop using 2002::/16 addresses as a product of a = software update which seems rather more likely (also there some evidence = for that), it will. that said yes one assumption is that you have to = continue to support it.
When you switch the source address preference from 2002::/16 to IPv4 you loose insight into which machines have 2002::/16 addresses still without explict testing.
<snip>It is really hard to justify the expansion and deployment of new =relays =3Dwhen in fact tunneled traffic can be observed to be on the decline =3D (possibly because devices particularly hosts that do receive regular ==3Dupdates receive tweaks to their address selection algorithm). =3D =http://asert.arbornetworks.com/2011/04/six-months-six-providers-and-ipv6/=20 Which may or may not be a short term dip.correlation is not causation but... = http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/11/apple-fixes-broken-ipv6-by-break= ing-it-some-more.arsWe are yet to see much in the way of IPv6 only content. When that appears, which it will, the =tunneledtraffic will go up unless ISPs have deployed native IPv6 to all =customers.Are you willing to bet on which will happen first?I'm willing to bet that subpar experience due to auto-tunneling is = considered a liability for content providers.This whole area is in a state of flux.
-- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka () isc org
Current thread:
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?), (continued)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Cameron Byrne (Jul 12)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Doug Barton (Jul 12)
- RE: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Ronald Bonica (Jul 12)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Owen DeLong (Jul 12)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Joel Jaeggli (Jul 12)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Mark Andrews (Jul 12)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Cameron Byrne (Jul 12)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Joel Jaeggli (Jul 12)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Mark Andrews (Jul 12)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Joel Jaeggli (Jul 12)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Mark Andrews (Jul 13)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Owen DeLong (Jul 12)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Joel Jaeggli (Jul 12)
- Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?) Fred Baker (Jul 11)
- Re: Why is IPv6 broken? Nick Hilliard (Jul 11)
- Re: Why is IPv6 broken? Jeff Wheeler (Jul 11)
- Re: Why is IPv6 broken? Tom Hill (Jul 11)