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Re: NIST IPv6 document
From: Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net>
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:24:36 -0600 (CST)
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:On Jan 5, 2011, at 9:17 PM, Joe Greco wrote:However, that's not the only potential use! =A0A client that initiates each new outbound connection from a different IP address is doing something Really Good.If hosts start cycling their addresses that frequently, don't you run the risk of that becoming a form of DOS on your router's ND tables?Of course, Owen. I replied to that specific point in Joe's post earlier, although I have written so much on this thread, I have tried to condense my replies, so anyone reading in thread mode may have missed it. The fact that Joe even makes that suggestion signals how little understanding he has of the problem. His idea would DoS his own router.
With today's implementations of things? Perhaps. However, you show yourself equally incapable of grasping the real problem by looking at the broader picture, and recognizing that problematic issues such as finding hosts on a network are very solvable problems, and that we are at an early enough phase of IPv6 that we can even expect some experiments will be tried. Look beyond what _is_ today and see if you can figure out what it _could_ be. There's no need for what I suggest to DoS a router; that's just accepting a naive implementation and saying "well this can't be done because this one way of doing it breaks things." It is better to look for a way to fix the problem. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
Current thread:
- Re: NIST IPv6 document, (continued)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Jack Bates (Jan 06)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Joel Jaeggli (Jan 05)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Paul Ferguson (Jan 05)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Jack Bates (Jan 06)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Marcel Plug (Jan 06)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Jack Bates (Jan 06)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Lamar Owen (Jan 06)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Owen DeLong (Jan 06)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Owen DeLong (Jan 06)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Jeff Wheeler (Jan 06)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Joe Greco (Jan 06)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Jeff Wheeler (Jan 06)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Owen DeLong (Jan 06)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Joe Greco (Jan 06)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Lamar Owen (Jan 06)
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- Re: NIST IPv6 document Tim Chown (Jan 06)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 06)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Jack Bates (Jan 06)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 06)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Jack Bates (Jan 06)
- Re: NIST IPv6 document Lamar Owen (Jan 06)