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Re: quietly....


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:29:16 -0800


On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Jack Carrozzo wrote:

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com> wrote:


IPv4's not dead yet;  even the first  RIR exhaustion probable in  3 -
6 months  doesn't end the IPv4 ride.

There is some hope more IPv4 organizations will start thinking about
their plans for establishing connectivity with IPv6;  so they can
commmunicate with IPv6-only hosts that will begin to emerge
later.


What organizations (eye networks) will do is layer NAT till the cows come
home for some years to come. Buckle up!

-Jack Carrozzo

All of the eye networks that have looked at this have realized the following
things that you apparently have not:

        1.      Layering NAT beyond 2 deep (one provider, one subscriber)
                doesn't help.

        2.      NAT444 will break lots of things that work in current NAT44.

        3.      Users subjected to this environment after experiencing the
                limited brokenness of NAT44 or full access to the internet
                will not be happy.

        4.      Maintaining NAT444 environments will be a support headache
                and a costly arms race of deployments and management.

        5.      IPv6 will cost a lot less than NAT444 as soon as they can
                get their subscribers fully deployed and is a much more
                desirable alternative.

Owen



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