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Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy.
From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:32:17 -0800
In a message written on Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 01:54:28PM -0800, Joel jaeggli wrote:
We know rather alot about the original posters' business, it has ~34 million wireless subscribers in north america. I think it's safe to assume that adequate docuementation could be provided.
As I suspect there are a few confused people here, the OP did not post that information. Google shows Cameron Byrne works at T-Moble USA, per his LinkedIn, and I believe Joel is citing that T-Moble has ~34 Million subscribers, which seems to match some recent info. It appears to me folks are _assuming_ his request to ARIN was for T-Moble, and covered all 34 Million users. Of course that still doesn't mean 34 million IP addresses are required. T-Moble sells phones today that can't do anything IP related (http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=Samsung-t139, as an example), and even for the phones that can do IP not all of them are connected at once. I will repeat myself though, we don't know what was submitted to ARIN, or why they responded the way they did. Having the OP come whine to NANOG without us having that information is useless. ARIN's PPML list might be more helpful, or some AC members. Heck, even picking up the phone and talking to ARIN might work better. To bring this back on topic for NANOG though, they need to get it sorted quickly. ARIN shows an equivilent of 5.63 /8's in inventory right now. If 34 million addresses are needed, and can be used to 80% effiency that would require ~2.5 /8's worth of space. It would only take a couple of these sorts of requests and the free pool is gone. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/
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- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Matthew Kaufman (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Jimmy Hess (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Ricky Beam (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. David Conrad (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Leo Bicknell (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Joel jaeggli (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Jeff Wheeler (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Joel jaeggli (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Stephen Sprunk (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Leo Bicknell (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Matthew Kaufman (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Ricky Beam (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Stephen Sprunk (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Cameron Byrne (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Leo Bicknell (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Ricky Beam (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Brielle Bruns (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Cameron Byrne (Dec 16)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. David Conrad (Dec 15)