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Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid,
From: Jack Bates <jbates () brightok net>
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:38:06 -0500
On 9/21/2010 8:12 AM, Joe Greco wrote:
Finally, there's a risk that this double-edged sword could slice back at service providers. Content networks often raise funds through advertising. What happens when one day, some network (*cough ESPN360*), decides that a *SERVICE PROVIDER* should pay for the privilege of getting access to their content? I mean, after all, two can play at the game of holding the ISP's subscribers hostage, and in many areas, subscribers do have a choice between at least two service providers, in case their first choice sucks. I don't think we want this, but it could be a natural backlash. What if Google came to you and said "you will pay us a dollar per sub per month, or we will route all your traffic through a 56k link in Timbuktu"? Would most eyeball networks even have a realistic *choice*?
Yeah, wish that was illegal. The size of the provider determines the cost per capable subscriber, along with other perks, so it's a better deal for the AT&T and Verizons of the world, and sucks for the "We have 13 independent ILECs and each has to have a separate deal." Word is, they designed it with their current cable customers in mind, not the traditional ISP, so it pushes people towards the cable company.
I'd accept any ISP net-neutrality arguement for content providers to stop doing that crap and support per user subscription fees. The whole beauty of the Internet video is people can pick and choose and not have to pay for things they don't use (ie, for espn3, I have to account the per customer charges into my bills and pester my customers with espn3 advertising in their bills even if they hate sports or don't watch video/tv/movies).
Jack
Current thread:
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid,, (continued)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Joel Jaeggli (Sep 20)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, George Bonser (Sep 20)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Matthew Palmer (Sep 20)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, George Bonser (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Joe Greco (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Matthew Palmer (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Dobbins, Roland (Sep 20)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, William Herrin (Sep 20)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, George Bonser (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Joe Greco (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Jack Bates (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Marshall Eubanks (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Jack Bates (Sep 16)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? George Bonser (Sep 16)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Chris Woodfield (Sep 16)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? George Bonser (Sep 16)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? William Herrin (Sep 16)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? sthaug (Sep 16)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? William Herrin (Sep 16)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Jack Bates (Sep 16)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Nathan Eisenberg (Sep 17)