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Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?
From: Michael Dillon <wavetossed () googlemail com>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:22:24 +0100
So you are saying, it's perfectly okay to improve one service over another by adding bandwidth directly to that service, but it's unacceptable to prioritize it's traffic on congested links (which effectively adds more bandwidth for that service). It's the same thing, using two different methods.
On TCP/IP networks you cannot prioritize a service and you certainly cannot add bandwidth unless you have an underlying ATM or Frame Relay that has bandwidth in reserve. On a TCP/IP network, QOS features work by deprioritising traffic, either by delaying the traffic or by dropping packets. Many ISPs do deprioritise P2P traffic to prevent it from creating congestion, but that is not something that you can productize. At best you can use it as a feature to encourage customers to use your network. Are you suggesting that ISPs who receive protection money from one service provider, should then deprioritise all the other traffic on their network?
ISP has 2xDS3 available for bandwidth total. Netflix traffic is 20mb/s. Bandwidth is considered saturated.
Now you are talking about circuit capacities well below what ISPs typically use. In fact, two 45Mbps DS3 circuits are less than the 100Mbps Ethernet broadband service that many consumers now use. --Michael Dillon
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- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?, (continued)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? William Herrin (Sep 16)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Jack Bates (Sep 16)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Nathan Eisenberg (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Jack Bates (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Chris Woodfield (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Jack Bates (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Chris Woodfield (Sep 17)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Drew Weaver (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Jack Bates (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Jack Bates (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Michael Dillon (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Jack Bates (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? JC Dill (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Jack Bates (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? JC Dill (Sep 18)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Bill Stewart (Sep 19)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? JC Dill (Sep 19)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Randy Bush (Sep 19)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? George Bonser (Sep 19)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Nathan Eisenberg (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Owen DeLong (Sep 17)