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Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:05:26 -0700
On Oct 18, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
On 10/18/10 9:33 AM, Tony Hain wrote:This 'get a /32' BAD ADVICE has got to stop. There are way too many people trying to force fit their customers into a block that is intended for a start-up with ZERO customers. Develop a plan for /48 per customer, then go to ARIN and get that size block.Develop a plan, consider the prior art, consider the possibly that you might deploy 6rd, consider what your peers are doing, consider the projections for your business. Go to arin with a request that meets your current and anticipated needs and that is defensible. don't decide without thinking it through that you're assigning a customer a /64 a /60 a /56 or even /48. this should be defensible as part of a business plan, otherwise what's the point?
A /48 is defensible. It's the architecturally intended end-site configuration, it is allowed by policy, and, it is a reasonable starting point. There is no real reason to assign less than a /48 to any end-site other than hyper- conservatism due to IPv4-think. Owen
Figure out exactly what you are going to assign to customers later, but don't tie your hands by asking for a block that is way too small to begin with. Any ISP with more than 30k customers SHOULD NOT have a /32, and if they got one either trade it in or put it in a lab and get a REAL block. Tony-----Original Message----- From: Brandon Kim [mailto:brandon.kim () brandontek com] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 1:59 PM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: RE: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption Thanks everyone who responded. This list is such a valuable wealth of information. Apparently I was wrong about the /64 as that should be /32 so thanks for that correction.... Thanks again especially on a Saturday weekend!From: rdobbins () arbor net To: nanog () nanog org Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:09:43 +0000 Subject: Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption On Oct 16, 2010, at 10:56 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:Then move on to the Internet which as with most things is where themost cuurent if not helpful information resides.Eric Vyncke's IPv6 security book is definitely worthwhile, as well,in combination with Schudel & Smith's infrastructure security book (the latter isn't IPv6-specific, but is the best book out there on infrastructure security):<http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=1587055945> <http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=1587053365> -----------------------------------------------------------------------Roland Dobbins <rdobbins () arbor net> // <http://www.arbornetworks.com> Sell your computer and buy a guitar.=
Current thread:
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption - Sparse IPv6 allocation, (continued)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption - Sparse IPv6 allocation Owen DeLong (Oct 18)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption - Sparse IPv6 allocation John Curran (Oct 18)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption - Sparse IPv6 allocation Randy Carpenter (Oct 18)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption Owen DeLong (Oct 18)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption Owen DeLong (Oct 18)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption Owen DeLong (Oct 18)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption Jack Bates (Oct 18)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption Joel Jaeggli (Oct 18)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption Owen DeLong (Oct 18)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption Joel Jaeggli (Oct 18)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption Owen DeLong (Oct 18)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption sthaug (Oct 18)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption Jack Bates (Oct 18)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption Franck Martin (Oct 18)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption Jack Bates (Oct 18)
- RE: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption Schiller, Heather A (HeatherSkanks) (Oct 19)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption Jack Bates (Oct 19)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption Owen DeLong (Oct 19)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption Lee (Oct 19)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption Robert E. Seastrom (Oct 18)
- Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption Marshall Eubanks (Oct 18)