Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated?

[Mark Smith <nanog () 85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc nosense org>]

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:25:39 -0400
Scott Reed <sreed () nwwnet net> wrote:

> Why would the assumption be the ISP = knowledgeable or even caring about 
> RIRs, etc.?
>
> When I started my ISP 6 years ago I knew someone issued IP addresses to 
> my upstream provider, but I really didn't care who that was.  The 
> upstream took care of everything related to getting and assigning 
> addresses as far as I was concerned.  Even when I changed upstream 
> providers they took care of the addresses.  It was at that time I 
> realized I need to learn more about the whole IP address assignment 
> process so I wouldn't have to renumber next time I changed providers.  I 
> dug far enough to find that my ISP was not big enough to get an 
> assignment and the required fee was more than the cost to renumber, so I 
> didn't look any farther.
>
> So, as a log of start-ups and small businesses do, I learned enough to 
> make what I needed work, but not everything that may have been beneficial.

So maybe to state the obvious, IPv4 != IPv6, and therefore in Jack's
situation something different needs to be done, such as those
ISPs learning about RIRs, LIRs etc. sooner rather than later. 

> On 10/26/2010 3:20 PM, George Bonser wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jack Bates [mailto:jbates () brightok net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:23 AM
> > > To: Randy Carpenter
> > > Cc: nanog () nanog org
> > > Subject: Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated?
> > >
> > > On 10/26/2010 1:01 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote:
> > > > Wait... If you are issuing space to ISPs that are multihomed, they
> > > > should be getting their own addresses. Even if they aren't
> > > > multihomed, they should probably be getting their own addresses. Why
> > > > would you be supplying them with address space if they are an ISP?
> > > Because they are my customer. They don't know much about RIRs, paying
> > > membership fees, etc. They just know they want address space, and I
> > > provide that.
> > If they are ISPs and don't know much about RIRs, can you please name them and provide their ASNs ... oh, wait ... 
> > they won't have an ASN if they don't know about RIRs and fees and such.
> >
> > Something isn't passing the smell test here.
>
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