RE: Cisco hardware question

["Adcock, Matt [HISNA]" <MAdcock () hisna com>]

Response from my Cisco rep:

"I has to be "Cisco Certified" refurbished. If it isn't it cannot have Smartnet placed on it without an inspection 
(which comes with an inspection fee) and the licensing paid for as well. When you combine these two cost items together 
with the selling price of the gear you're about back to the cost of a brand new piece of equipment. The most difficult 
part of buying this "gray market" or even "black market" gear is that you don't really know where it came from. The 
Department of Defense has found some of this "black market" gear (a fake) in the networks of their vendors. In some 
cases they have found a "phone home" feature that pokes a hole in the firewall and then allows outside users (Chinese) 
into the network. Once in they can siphon off data from your network."

Thanks,
Matt


 
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From: Adcock, Matt [HISNA]
Sent: Thu 3/4/2010 7:17 PM
To: Seth Mattinen; nanog () nanog org
Subject: RE: Cisco hardware question


That's very true.  They ship some out one door for Cisco and some out another door for gray/black market.

One other thing to note - the discounts shown on the Web site previously mentioned here are not that greater than the 
ones I know Cisco gives many companies.  Is it really worth taking a chance with one of the most critical parts of your 
infrastructure to save 10% or 15%.  In my industry (automotive) and I think in many others the answer is absoutely not.

Matt



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From: Seth Mattinen [mailto:sethm () rollernet us]
Sent: Thu 3/4/2010 6:20 PM
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: Cisco hardware question



On 3/4/2010 16:16, Ricky Beam wrote:
> Not necessarily.  I've seen a lot of boxes that appear to have come
> "direct" from Cisco, however, I know they came from a wholesaler's
> warehouse. (only one came direct from Cisco. from the factory in Malaysia.)

A lot of counterfeits come direct from the factory, too. ;)

~Seth