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Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers
From: Brielle Bruns <bruns () 2mbit com>
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 09:26:13 -0600
On 6/9/10 6:27 AM, Jorge Amodio wrote:
Going back then to a previous question, do we want more/any regulation ?
Laws and regulation exist because people can't behave civilly and be expected to respect the rights/boundries/property others.
CAN-SPAM exists because the e-mail marketing business refused to self regulate and respect the wishes of consumers/administrators
FDCPA exists because the debt collectors couldn't resist the temptation to harass and intimidate consumers, and behave ethically.
It's just a matter of time, and really unavoidable. The thing is, these industries have no one to blame but themselves. In all cases, these laws/regulation only came into affect AFTER situations got out of control.
Lately, the courts have been ruling that companies like LimeWire are responsible for their products being used for piracy/downloading because they knew what was going on, but were turning a blind eye.
Why not apply the same standards to ISPs? If it can be shown that you had knowledge of specific abuse coming from your network, but for whatever reason, opted to ignore it and turn a blind eye, then you are responsible.
When I see abuse from my network or am made aware of it, I isolate and drop on my edge the IPs in question, then investigate and respond. Most times, it takes me maybe 10-15 minutes to track down the user responsible, shut off their server or host, then terminate their stupid self.
A little bit of effort goes a long way. But, if you refuse to put in the effort (I'm looking at you, GoDaddy Abuse Desk), then of course the problems won't go away.
-- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org
Current thread:
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers, (continued)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Owen DeLong (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Joe Greco (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Larry Sheldon (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Joe Greco (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Chris Adams (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Larry Sheldon (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Adrian Chadd (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Jorge Amodio (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Joe Greco (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Brielle Bruns (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Owen DeLong (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Larry Sheldon (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Owen DeLong (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers JC Dill (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Owen DeLong (Jun 10)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Brielle Bruns (Jun 10)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Michael Dillon (Jun 10)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Tim Franklin (Jun 10)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers J. Oquendo (Jun 10)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers JC Dill (Jun 10)