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Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style
From: William Allen Simpson <william.allen.simpson () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:17:23 -0500
On 12/16/10 9:51 AM, Craig L Uebringer wrote:
Funny thing about competition is that there are losers as well as winners. DSL competition didn't lose by regulation, it lost (nationally) by cheaper, more elastic bandwidth available on other media and JC's previously-noted fickle and lazy consumers.
Apparently, you've never owned or run an ISP in the past dozen years.... Pacific Bell Telephone v. LinkLine, 07-512 It lost *precisely* by regulation: Google "Tauzin-Dingell". We used to offer up to 7 Mbps bidirectional DSL long before cable or the Bells offered anything in that range. We had our own DSLAMs. How exactly do you compete when the Incumbent charges us $80 per month wholesale for UNE lines that they sell $10 per month retail? http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20061228/181255.shtml http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/ATT-10-DSL-Today-84904 Note that's only $10 for "new" customers (that is, *our* customers). And that's just the tip of the iceberg: http://www.cybertelecom.org/broadband/dslnaked.htm org.law.rutgers.edu/publications/lawjournal/issues/38_1/Sholinsky.pdf ...
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