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Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions
From: Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 14:10:29 -0800
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 6:28 AM, William Allen Simpson <william.allen.simpson () gmail com> wrote:
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The Ou article makes no sense at all! It's based on the premise that Level 3 and Comcast are peering, and that traffic should be symmetric. Everywhere else, the articles and pundits indicate that Comcast is a transit customer of Level 3.
So, one wonders why Level3 didn't just say "look, I'm the vendor, you're the customer; the customer pays the vendor for service, period. If you don't like the current contract, you can request a renegotiation, or your can submit your notice to terminate, based on the termination clauses listed in the contract (including whatever penalties are included for early termination)." I've never seen another case of a customer trying to bill their upstream provider, without being summarily laughed at. I hope this doesn't set a precedent, where customers of transit providers can turn around and decide that "transit" only means "outbound bit transit", and "inbound bits" are fair game for reverse billing. If it does, it's going to completely eliminate "transit" as a commercial offering; instead, we'll all be stuck doing settlements in every direction for traffic...and that's just *way* too much paperwork. ^_^; Matt (speaking only for the small pile of lint that accumulated under my head after falling asleep under my desk while trying to write this message many hours ago, and certainly not for any employer, ever)
Current thread:
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions Jeff Young (Dec 01)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions Frank Bulk (Dec 01)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions William Allen Simpson (Dec 02)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions Jeffrey Lyon (Dec 02)
- RE: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions Frank Bulk (Dec 02)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions Matthew Petach (Dec 02)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions Christopher Morrow (Dec 02)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions Joe Provo (Dec 03)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions Brandon Ross (Dec 02)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions William Allen Simpson (Dec 02)