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Re: what about 48 bits?
From: joel jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:02:12 -0400
On 4/6/2010 10:39 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
On 05 Apr 2010 12:43, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:29:20 EDT, Jay Nakamura said:I would have attributed the success of Ethernet to price!You've got the causality wrong -- it wasn't cheap, way back when.I remember back in '93~94ish (I think) you could get a off brand 10BT card for less than $100, as oppose to Token Ring which was $300~400. I can't remember anything else that was cheaper back then. If you go back before that, I don't know.Steve is talking mid-80s pricing, not mid-90s. By '93 or so, the fact that Ethernet was becoming ubiquitous had already forced the price down.Ah, but what _caused_ Ethernet to become ubiquitous, given the price was initially comparable?
Early standardization.
The only explanation I can think of is the raft of cheap NE2000 knock-offs that hit the market in the late 1980s, which gave Ethernet a major price advantage over Token Ring (the chips for which all vendors _had_ to buy from IBM at ridiculous cost).
Metcalf didn't make computers, whereas IBM and Datapoint did, protecting their captive markets cost both of them quite dearly.
Current thread:
- Re: what about 48 bits?, (continued)
- Re: what about 48 bits? Jay Nakamura (Apr 05)
- Re: what about 48 bits? Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 05)
- Re: what about 48 bits? Steven Bellovin (Apr 05)
- Re: what about 48 bits? Nick Hilliard (Apr 05)
- Re: what about 48 bits? Jeroen van Aart (Apr 07)
- Re: what about 48 bits? Vince Fuller (Apr 08)
- Re: what about 48 bits? Barry Shein (Apr 05)
- Re: what about 48 bits? Steven Bellovin (Apr 05)
- Re: what about 48 bits? Bill Stewart (Apr 05)
- Re: what about 48 bits? Stephen Sprunk (Apr 06)
- Re: what about 48 bits? joel jaeggli (Apr 06)
- Re: what about 48 bits? John Kristoff (Apr 07)
- Re: what about 48 bits? Roland Perry (Apr 07)
- Re: what about 48 bits? Joe Greco (Apr 07)
- Re: what about 48 bits? Roland Perry (Apr 07)
- Re: what about 48 bits? Joe Greco (Apr 07)
- Hubs on a NIC (was:Re: what about 48 bits?) Lamar Owen (Apr 07)
- Re: Hubs on a NIC (was:Re: what about 48 bits?) Joe Greco (Apr 07)
- Re: Hubs on a NIC (was:Re: what about 48 bits?) Steven Bellovin (Apr 07)
- Re: Hubs on a NIC (was:Re: what about 48 bits?) Joe Greco (Apr 08)
- Re: Hubs on a NIC (was:Re: what about 48 bits?) Roland Perry (Apr 08)