nanog mailing list archives

Re: Mail Submission Protocol


From: Tony Finch <dot () dotat at>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:19:38 +0100

Happily Microsoft have fixed their smtps stupidity, so you only need to support it on the server if you need to support users running old versions of Outlook etc. There was never anything particularly wrong with smtps, apart from a dogma in the IETF that it is architecturally wrong. The consensus now is that it was wrong to rescind the port allocation, because that completely failed to stop people (er, Microsoft) from deploying smtps, and just led to interop problems.

Tony (on his iPod).
--
f.anthony.n.finch  <dot () dotat at>  http://dotat.at/


On 28 Apr 2010, at 01:55, Jeroen van Aart <jeroen () mompl net> wrote:

Raoul Bhatia [IPAX] wrote:
> i recently had the problem that an lotus notes server insisted on
sending emails to one of our clients via port 465. so having mandatory
authentication there actually broke delivery for an exchange sender.

Leave it "broken" for the other end that is. Only way to force them to fix it.

The only acceptable, and standard, way to submit email these days is using port 587 with TLS. And if you have users with broken clients, they can use webmail behind https. I am against facilitating (and thus perpetuating the existence of) old broken clients by making available port 465.

Regards,
Jeroen

--
http://goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/



Current thread: