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Re: the alleged evils of NAT, was Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?


From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:47:26 -0400

On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:37:08 EDT, Jon Lewis said:

Maybe we want end-to-end to break.

Firewalls can trivially be misconfigured such that they're little more 
than routers, fully exposing all the hosts behind them to everything bad 
the internet has to offer (hackers, malware looking to spread itself, 
etc.).

At least with NAT, if someone really screws up the config, the "inside" 
stuff is all typically on non-publicly-routed IPs, so the worst likely to 
happen is they lose internet, but at least the internet can't directly 
reach them.

You *do* realize that the skill level needed to misconfigure a firewall
into that state, and the skill level needed to do the exact same thing to
a firewall-NAT box, are *both* less than the skill level needed to remember
to also deploy traffic monitors so you know you screwed up, and host-based
firewalls to guard against chuckleheads screwing up the border box?

In other words, if your security scheme relies on that supposed feature of NAT,
you have *other* things you need to be working on.

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