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Re: legacy /8
From: bmanning () vacation karoshi com
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 00:09:52 +0000
On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 03:13:16PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
Sigh... Guess you missed the last several go-arounds of Running out of IPv4 will create some hardships. That cannot be avoided.
we won't run out, we won't exaust, we are -NOT- killing the last tuna. what we are doing is roughly what was anticipated in RFC 2050, we will get more efficent utilization of all the space.
Even if we were to reclaim the supposed unused legacy /8s, we'd still only extend the date of IPv4 runout by a few months.
wrong analogy. there won't be "green field" space - but there will still be lots to go around... for legacy style use (e.g. the Internet as we know it today) -- want to do something different? then use IPv6.
The amount of effort required to reclaim those few IPv4 addresses would vastly exceed the return on that effort. Far better for that effort to be directed towards the addition of IPv6 capabilities to existing IPv4 deployments so as to minimize the impact of IPv4 exhaustion.
here we disagree. Im all in favor of demonstrating 85% utilization of the IPv4 address pool before handing out new address space. --bill
Owen On Apr 2, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote:I am curious. Once we're nearing exhausting all IPv4 space will there ever come a time to ask/demand/force returning all these legacy /8 allocations? I think I understand the difficulty in that, but then running out of IPs is also a difficult issue. :-) For some reason I sooner see all IPv4 space being exhausted than IPv6 being actually implemented globally. Greetings, Jeroen
Current thread:
- Re: legacy /8, (continued)
- Re: legacy /8 bmanning (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 jim deleskie (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 Robert Brockway (Apr 03)
- Re: legacy /8 David Conrad (Apr 03)
- Re: legacy /8 Larry Sheldon (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 Michael Thomas (Apr 02)
- RE: legacy /8 Joe Johnson (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 Majdi S. Abbas (Apr 02)
- RE: legacy /8 Mikael Abrahamsson (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 bmanning (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 Randy Bush (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 Jim Burwell (Apr 02)
- RE: legacy /8 George Bonser (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 jim deleskie (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 John Palmer (NANOG Acct) (Apr 02)
- RE: legacy /8 George Bonser (Apr 02)
- RE: legacy /8 George Bonser (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 Mark Smith (Apr 02)
- RE: legacy /8 George Bonser (Apr 03)
- Re: legacy /8 Michael Dillon (Apr 03)