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Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?
From: Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net>
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:01:25 -0500 (CDT)
* Nick Hilliard:On 19/04/2010 16:14, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote:The eyeball ISPs will find it trivial to NAT should they ever need to do so [...]Having made this bold claim, have you ever actually tried to run a natted eyeball network? The last two natted eyeball networks I worked with could never figure out which aspect of NAT hurt more: the technical side or the business side.I'm pretty sure the acceptance of NAT varies regionally. I think there's a large ISP in Italy which has been doing NAT since the 90s. So it's not just the mobile domain. It can be tricky to introduce a new NATted product and compete with established players which do not NAT, though.
It's another opportunity to monetize things. Give people the option of a "real" IP address for $5 extra a month in case they actually need it for gaming, etc., and default Grandma's average everyday connection to NAT. The eyeball ISP's definitely have the easier end of things. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
Current thread:
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?, (continued)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Owen DeLong (Apr 19)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Patrick Giagnocavo (Apr 19)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Patrick W. Gilmore (Apr 19)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Owen DeLong (Apr 19)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Robert Brockway (Apr 19)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Dave Pooser (Apr 19)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Nick Hilliard (Apr 19)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Patrick Giagnocavo (Apr 19)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Florian Weimer (Apr 19)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Joe Abley (Apr 19)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Joe Greco (Apr 19)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Mark Smith (Apr 19)
- RE: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Frank Bulk (Apr 19)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Joe Greco (Apr 19)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Mark Andrews (Apr 19)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Patrick Giagnocavo (Apr 19)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Mark Andrews (Apr 19)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Patrick Giagnocavo (Apr 19)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Mark Andrews (Apr 19)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? bmanning (Apr 20)
- Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough? Mark Andrews (Apr 20)