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Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN
From: David Conrad <drc () virtualized org>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:22:50 -0700
Ok, lets start with not breaking the functionality we have today in IPv4. Once you get that working again we can look at new ideas (like RA) that might have utility. Let the new stuff live/die on it's own merits. The Internet is very good at sorting out the useful technology from the crap.
Right. I'll admit some confusion here. If the IETF, due to religion or aesthetics, is blocking attempts at making DHCPv6 do what network operators _need_ (as opposed to want), why haven't network operators routed around the problem and gone and funded folks like ISC, NLNetLabs, Cisco, Juniper, et al., to implement what they need?
At conferences I keep hearing "It would be great if the IETF had more operator input." Yet whenever we try to provide operationally useful advice we are ridiculed for not being smart enough to know how things should work. How do we fix that?
You seem to be asking "how do we make people not stupid". Folks tend to simplify reality so that it fits their world view. Stupid people attempt to force that simplified reality onto others. You can either play their game, attempting to get them to understand reality is often more complicated than we'd like, or route around them. Or you can post to NANOG... :-) Regards, -drc
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Karl Auer (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Nick Hilliard (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN bmanning (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Nick Hilliard (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN sthaug (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Mohacsi Janos (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Karl Auer (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Mark Smith (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Owen DeLong (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Kevin Loch (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN David Conrad (Oct 22)
- RE: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Tony Hain (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN David Conrad (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Iljitsch van Beijnum (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Adrian Chadd (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Owen DeLong (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN sthaug (Oct 22)
- Re: {SPAM?} Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Ray Soucy (Oct 22)
- Re: {SPAM?} Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Leo Bicknell (Oct 22)
- Re: {SPAM?} Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Ray Soucy (Oct 22)
- Re: {SPAM?} Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Leo Bicknell (Oct 22)