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Re: Is v6 as important as v4? Of course not [was: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering]
From: Mike Leber <mleber () he net>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:53:37 -0700
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
As for facts, there is lots of basis. HE has run a network for decades and has never let a v4 bifurcation happen so long. Ever. They've run v6 for a few years yet it happened.
News flash, IPv6 is new.News flash, every single IPv6 network that gets configured that previously did not exist is new.
News flash, when an IPv6 newbie configures IPv6 for the first time they have zero IPv6 BGP peers and transits until they configure them.
News flash, some of these IPv6 newbies will even commit the error of not bothering to establish much IPv6 peering or decent IPv6 transit, before adding a AAAA record for their main website, ensuring that it is broken for the majority of the existing IPv6 Internet.
News flash, newbies make mistakes, insist up is down, blue is green etc. This is called learning if they fix it, and stupidity otherwise.
News flash, Hurricane will do everything possible to reach these newbie networks where ever they are in the world, some of them rather large, and try to help them (sometimes in spite of themselves), however some of them will insist on breaking themselves anyway!
It's just going to happen and there is nothing you can do to stop them. Customers will vote with dollars (or whatever currency), problem solved. Mike.
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering Steve Bertrand (Oct 12)
- Is v6 as important as v4? Of course not [was: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering] Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 13)
- Re: Is v6 as important as v4? Of course not [was: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering] Mike Leber (Oct 14)
- Re: Is v6 as important as v4? Of course not [was: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering] Randy Bush (Oct 14)
- Re: Is v6 as important as v4? Of course not [was: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering] Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 14)
- Re: Is v6 as important as v4? Of course not [was: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering] Randy Bush (Oct 14)
- Re: Is v6 as important as v4? Of course not [was: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering] Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 14)
- Re: Is v6 as important as v4? Of course not [was: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering] Phil Regnauld (Oct 14)
- Re: Is v6 as important as v4? Of course not [was: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering] Randy Bush (Oct 14)
- Re: Is v6 as important as v4? Of course not [was: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering] Dave Temkin (Oct 14)
- Re: Is v6 as important as v4? Of course not [was: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering] Mike Leber (Oct 14)
- Re: Is v6 as important as v4? Of course not [was: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering] Charles Wyble (Oct 14)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, Verizon route prefix length policy Jeff McAdams (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, Verizon route prefix length policy Mark Andrews (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, Verizon route prefix length policy Bret Clark (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, Verizon route prefix length policy Mark Andrews (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, Verizon route prefix length policy Seth Mattinen (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, Verizon route prefix length policy David Conrad (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, Verizon route prefix length policy Owen DeLong (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 internet broken, Verizon route prefix length policy David Conrad (Oct 12)