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Re: NPE-G2 vs. Sup720-3BXL


From: Julio Arruda <jarruda-gter () jarruda com>
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 11:00:39 -0400

Steve Dalberg wrote:
2009/5/18 Adam Armstrong <lists () memetic org>:
David Storandt wrote:
We're stuck in an engineering pickle, so some experience from this
crew would be useful in tie-breaking...

We operate a business-grade FTTx ISP with ~75 customers and 800Mbps of
Internet traffic, currently using 6509/Sup2s for core routing and port
aggregation. The MSFC2s are under stress from 3x full route feeds,
pared down to 85% to fit the TCAM tables. One system has a FlexWAN
with an OC3 card and it's crushing the CPU on the MSFC2. System tuning
(stable IOS and esp. disabling SPD) helped a lot but still doesn't
have the power to pull through. Hardware upgrades are needed...

We need true full routes and more CPU horsepower for crunching BGP
(+12 smaller peers + ISIS). OC3 interfaces are going to be mandatory,
one each at two locations. Oh yeah, we're still a larger startup
without endless pockets. Power, rack space, and SmartNet are not
concerns at any location (on-site cold spares). We may need an
upstream OC12 in the future but that's a ways out and not a concern
here.

Our engineering team has settled on three $20k/node options:
- Sup720-3BXLs with PS and fan upgrades
- Sup2s as switches + ISIS + statics and no BGP, push BGP edge routing
off to NPE-G2s across a 2-3Gbps port-channel
- Sup2s as switches + ISIS + statics and no BGP, push BGP edge routing
off to a 12008 with E3 engines across a 2-3Gbps port-channel.

Have a look at the ASR1002 + ESP5/10G

Stable for BGP+ISIS as far as our experience goes.

adam.



ASR1002 + ESP5 was great for OSPF + BGP.  450M+ of traffic for me at
peek (proc at1-2%)


Any experience in how much more resilient is the ASR compared with 7600/6500, DDoS-wise :-) ?
And compared with NPE-G2 ?
And in terms of CoPP and etc ?



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