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Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0?
From: "Ross" <ross () dillio net>
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 01:39:43 -0500 (CDT)
Vladis, I'm not going to argue with you on a socio economic opinion that companies who have stock holders are evil because they don't spend their funds where they want you to and promote anti-social behavior by doing so. If you think society's biggest problem is to stop port scanning then I hope you succeed in your crusade. I think many of us have bigger problems than you getting port scanned but if you every truly get attacked, I'll be there to help. As a good friend of mine says "no one ever goes to work and says, how am I going to suck today." We can all improve in our operations, public shaming for not dropping ones other duties to hand over information that you aren't privileged to is a bit sad. </rant> *nite* -- Ross ross [at] dillio.net
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 00:56:24 CDT, Ross said:I know I won't be able to change your mind. Saying a company's business decisions are antisocial just because they aren't doing you want is very unhelpful. I don't know how many large ISPs you have worked for but I'm not sure if you understand corporate budgets or politics.Ross - it doesn't help when you turn around and present another false dichotomy. It's quite possible that Joe *does* understand corporate budgets and politics, and *still* thinks that business decisions are antisocial. In fact, one can fairly easily argue that *many* of our current socio-economic issues are due to the fact that corporate decisions are in general required to be in the stockholder's interests, not society's. In other words, they are in general *by definition* anti-social. So the correct phrasing is "How do we change the anti-social behavior into something less anti-social which still pleases the stockholders?"Seriously, what will be your next analogy, pedophiles are the same as file sharers?Paging Jack Valenti...
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- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0?, (continued)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? Steven M. Bellovin (Mar 11)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? Ross (Mar 12)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? Brett Watson (Mar 12)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? JC Dill (Mar 12)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? N. Yaakov Ziskind (Mar 12)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? Mark Andrews (Mar 12)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? Ross (Mar 12)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? Joe Greco (Mar 12)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? Ross (Mar 13)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 13)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? Ross (Mar 13)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? JC Dill (Mar 13)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? Joe Greco (Mar 14)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? Mark Andrews (Mar 12)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? Joe Greco (Mar 12)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? Martin Hannigan (Mar 12)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? Joe Greco (Mar 13)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? Bobby Mac (Mar 13)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 13)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? Bill Stewart (Mar 13)
- Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0? Charles (Mar 13)