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RE: Arrogant RBL list maintainers
From: "Mark Scholten" <mark () streamservice nl>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:35:32 +0100
-----Original Message----- From: Michelle Sullivan [mailto:matthew () sorbs net] Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:09 PM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Please reply to the list, not me and the list! Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote:thing is that it's illegal to maintain a database with "personaldetails"which ip addresses according to various german courts are (don'task..mmk? ;) ofcourse we all know ip addresses identify nodes on anetwork, notpersons, but the germans seem to mainain a different view on this, despite us isps being the owners of the internet and not the german government ;). therefore we are not even -allowed- to cooperate with trend micro*grin*sometimes laws really come in handy you know ;)Based on what you say there, then the RIPE whois database cannot contain the information either because it to would be maintaining a database of "personal details"...
As you probably know RIPE is located in the Netherlands and following Dutch law and not German law (however they are very similar). Publishing persons (done by RIPE in the whois database) is something that could be changed in the future (if I look to the current law in the Netherlands and SIDN did change the policy about whois information).
Love to hear the legal battle on that one! <grin> Michelle
Current thread:
- RE: Arrogant RBL list maintainers, (continued)
- RE: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Mikael Abrahamsson (Dec 09)
- RE: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Sam Hayes Merritt, III (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Dave CROCKER (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Steven Champeon (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Sven Olaf Kamphuis (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Raymond Dijkxhoorn (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Sven Olaf Kamphuis (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Raymond Dijkxhoorn (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers John Levine (Dec 10)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Michelle Sullivan (Dec 16)
- RE: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Mark Scholten (Dec 16)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers William Pitcock (Dec 16)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Joe Greco (Dec 10)
- best practices for PTR naming and whois (was, sadly, Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers) Steven Champeon (Dec 10)
- Re: best practices for PTR naming and whois (was, sadly, Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers) Michael Thomas (Dec 10)
- Re: best practices for PTR naming and whois (was, sadly, Re: ArrogantRBL list maintainers) O'Reirdan, Michael (Dec 10)
- Re: best practices for PTR naming and whois (was, sadly, Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers) Steven Champeon (Dec 10)
- Re: best practices for PTR naming and whois (was, sadly, Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers) Mark Andrews (Dec 10)
- Re: best practices for PTR naming and whois (was, sadly, Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers) Michael Thomas (Dec 10)
- Re: best practices for PTR naming and whois (was, sadly, Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers) Joe Abley (Dec 10)
- Re: best practices for PTR naming and whois (was, sadly, Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers) Michael Thomas (Dec 10)