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RE: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband
From: "Carlos Alcantar" <carlos () race com>
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:38:16 -0700
I believe a lot of people are thinking the same way that fiber to the home is broadband. Looking at some poll results from a calix webinar it looks like most people submitting for stimulus money are going down that path of fiber to the home as gpon and active Ethernet seem to be the front runners. If anyone cares to look at the poll http://www.calix.com/bbs/ bottom right. -carlos -----Original Message----- From: jim deleskie [mailto:deleskie () gmail com] Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:57 AM To: Fred Baker Cc: Carlos Alcantar; nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband I agree we should all be telling the FCC that broadband is fiber to the home. If we spend all kinds of $$ to build a 1.5M/s connection to homes, it's outdated before we even finish. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Fred Baker<fred () cisco com> wrote:
If it's about stimulus money, I'm in favor of saying that broadband implies fiber to the home. That would provide all sorts of stimuli to the economy - infrastructure, equipment sales, jobs digging ditches, and so on. I could pretty quickly argue myself into suggesting special favors for deployment of DNSSEC, multicast, and IPv6. As in, use the stimulus money to propel a leap forward, not just waste it. On Aug 26, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Carlos Alcantar wrote:I think the big push to get the fcc to define broadband is highly based on the rus/ntia setting definitions of what broadband is. If any anyone has been fallowing the rus/ntia they are the one handing out all the stimulus infrastructure grant loan money. So there are a lot of political reasons to make the definition of broadband a bit slower than one would think. I guess it doesn't hurt that the larger lec's with the older infrastructure are shelling out the money to lobby to make sure the definition stays as low as can be. They don't want to see the gov funding there competition. Just my 2 cents. -carlos -----Original Message----- From: Ted Fischer [mailto:ted () fred net] Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:50 AM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Paul Timmins wrote:Fred Baker wrote:On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Luke Marrott wrote:What are your thoughts on what the definition of Broadband should begoing forward? I would assume this will be the standard definition for a number of years to come.Historically, narrowband was circuit switched (ISDN etc) andbroadbandwas packet switched. Narrowband was therefore tied to the digital signaling hierarchy and was in some way a multiple of 64 KBPS. As theterm was used then, broadband delivery options of course included virtual circuits bearing packets, like Frame Relay and ATM.of or relating to or being a communications network in which the bandwidth can be divided and shared by multiple simultaneous signals(asfor voice or data or video) That's my humble opinion. Let them use a new term, like "High Speed Internet".Seconded
Current thread:
- RE: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband, (continued)
- RE: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Hiers, David (Aug 26)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Joe Abley (Aug 26)
- RE: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Richard Bennett (Aug 26)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Jeffrey Lyon (Aug 26)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband jim deleskie (Aug 26)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Robert Enger - NANOG (Aug 26)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Sean Donelan (Aug 26)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Jack Bates (Aug 26)
- RE: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Frank Bulk - iName.com (Aug 27)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Eric Brunner-Williams (Aug 27)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband jim deleskie (Aug 26)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Roy (Aug 26)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband jim deleskie (Aug 26)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Roy (Aug 26)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Chris Adams (Aug 26)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband jim deleskie (Aug 26)