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Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests [re "impacting revenue"]


From: Shane Ronan <sronan () fattoc com>
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:42:58 -0700

I'm not sure if anyone agrees with me, but these responses seem like a big cop out to me.

A) If ARIN is so concerned about the potential depletion of v4 resources, they should be taking a more proactive roll in proposing potential solutions and start conversation rather then saying that the users should come up with a proposal which they then get a big vote one.

B) Again, while it might be the IETF's "job", shouldn't the group trusted with the management of the IP space at least have a public opinion about these solutions are designed. Ensuring that they are designed is such a way to guarantee maximum adoption of v6 and thus reducing the potential for depletion of v4 space.

C) Are ARIN's books open for public inspection? If so, it might be interesting for the group to see where all our money is going, since it's obviously not going to outreach and solution planning. Perhaps it is being spent in a reasonable manner, and the fees are where they need to be to sustain the organizations reasonable operations, but perhaps not.

Mr Curran, given the response you've seen from the group, and in particular the argument that most CEO's or Officers of firms will simply sign off on what they IT staff tells them (as they have little to no understanding of the situation), can you explain what exactly you are hoping to achieve by heaping on yet an additional requirement to the already over burdensome process of receiving an IPv4 allocation?

Shane Ronan

--Opinions contained herein are strictly my own--




On Apr 21, 2009, at 9:01 AM, John Curran wrote:
Roger -

   A few nits:

   A) ARIN's not ignoring unneeded legacy allocations, but can't take
      action without the Internet community first making some policy
on what action should be taken... Please get together with folks
      of similar mind either via PPML or via Public Policy meeting at
      the the Open Policy Bof, and then propose a policy accordingly.

B) Technical standards for NAT & NAPT are the IETF's job, not ARIN's.

   C) We've routinely lowered fees since inception, not raised them.

Thanks,
/John

John Curran
Acting CEO
ARIN





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